Milk. Does it Really Do a Body Good?
The nation’s milk industry has a great deal of advertising money and political clout behind it. While their ad campaigns have done a great job in convincing us that milk is very good for our health and comes from “happy cows,” many believe these statements to be far from the truth. The fundamental argument is that we are the only species that drinks milk past its infant stage, and therefore milk should be reserved for infants as nature intended and also come from our own species. Perhaps Arnold Shwarzenegger summed it up best in the popular documentary, Pumping Iron. When someone asked him if he drank milk, Arnold responded by saying, “Milk is for babies. When you grow up you drink beer.” Although Arnold was making a joke, he was also making a valid point; milk is for babies, not adults. You may think you need the calcium in milk to “build strong bones,” as the ads would have you believe. However, loading up on calcium rich foods or supplements is not the complete answer because the proper amount of magnesium must be present in your system to use calcium effectively; most nutritionists believe a ratio of 2:1 of calcium to magnesium is ideal. Milk contains nine times more calcium than magnesium, which is a very undesirable ratio. As a result, If you drink a great deal of milk and do not take in an adequate amount of magnesium, you could still develop a calcium deficiency. An abundance of un-absorbed calcium in your blood can build up in your tissues and cause calcium deposits, osteoarthritis, and other problems. The truth is that many other foods provide a much better source of calcium because they contain a much more desirable calcium to magnesium ratio. These foods include green leafy vegetables, most nuts, seeds, sea vegetables, and vegetables.
Most of the milk sold today is homogenized and pasteurized and both processes are suspected of creating potential health risks. According to Kevin Trudeau, in his book Natural Cures They Don’t Want You to Know About, the homogenization process produces elements in milk that can scar the arterial walls when ingested. If true, this is particularly alarming because this could ultimately lead to blocked arteries, which could result in a heart attack or stroke. In regard to pasteurization, while some say that it was introduced to produce a safer product, many others assert that the decision was driven by purely financial motives. Creating a more stable product that could sit for longer periods of time on grocery store shelves was seen as a more cost-effective and profitable method for distribution. As a result of this stabilizing process, both the milkman and the delivery of a fresher, healthier milk product became obsolete. The decision to choose convenience and financial gain over a healthier product became the priority, as it has become in so many other business-related cases. According to his article, The Great White Hope Goes Sour, Eliot Jay Rosen LISW, ACSW, writes,
“Investigations in to the claim that the pasteurization process makes milk sterile of dangerous organisms is false. Many types of streptococci, b. coli, undulant fever germs, etc. can all live quite well at pasteurization temperatures.”
Perhaps the biggest health risk created by the choice to pasteurize is the destruction of living enzymes. Fresh milk, that has not been heated, contains live digestive enzymes and these enzymes efficiently digest fat; thereby relieving the body from the problems associated with fatty build up in the arteries. A good example to illustrate this point is the Masai tribe of Africa. Their diet mainly consists of raw dairy products and meat, and yet they have very little incidence of heart disease. Even in our own culture, the use of fresh, raw dairy products from free-range cows has never been linked to anything but increased health and vitality. Dating back as far as 500 B.C., physicians like Hippocrates, used raw dairy products to treat disease because of the favorable effects it had upon patients. Unfortunately, all these beneficial dairy therapies disappeared when the process of pasteurization came into effect. Finding raw dairy products from free-range cows can be very difficult today, but I do see them in some markets that specialize in natural, organic foods.
Note: If you do decide to drink raw milk products you must make sure it is fresh to avoid any dangerous bacterial growth that may have developed.
The questionable ways in which the milk industry mass produces it’s end product is under a great deal of scrutiny these days. In order to raise profits, milk farmers have been accused of creating dangerous ways to extract more milk from cows, which include the use of hormones, steroids, antibiotics, and advanced machinery for milking. The result is often strained, overworked udders that become infected, and drop disease-laden blood and pus into the milk. Additionally, the milk is at a greater risk from further contamination when it is stored in big holding tanks and tanker trucks because they can contain deadly bacteria as well. To resolve this dangerous situation very strong antibiotics are dumped into the milk to kill the bacteria, which can create further health problems. Antibiotics in dairy products (and meat) pose a problem for many people because they often upset the ratio between good and bad bacteria in the intestines. Antibiotics often suppress the good bacteria in your intestines, which allow bad bacteria to thrive. This can cause an overgrowth of yeast, fungus, and mold to occur. If this overgrowth of bacteria is allowed to flourish you can become susceptible to disease. For this reason it’s a good idea to limit foods that are known to contain antibiotics, such as commercially processed dairy products. Hmmm, would you like a nice, bloody, pus-laden, bacteria-infected, antibiotic filled, mucous-enhancing glass of milk?
Although the milk industry would like you to believe milk is vital for overall health; that just doesn’t seem to be the case. Unless you live on a farm and have access to raw, free-range cow milk you should consider this information. If you still wish to include pasteurized and homogenized milk as a regular part of your diet, I would suggest that you limit your servings to 2-3 per week and only drink milk that comes from organically fed, free-range dairy cows. Companies like Organic Valley and Stonyfield Farm seem to be doing their best to create a healthier milk product. For more information about them please go to: www.organicvalley.comor www.stonyfield.com
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Milk Fan
Big milk fan here. Always use milk with my protein shake because it just taste better.
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i drank a gallon of milk a day for a cpl years....never really had any bad effects that i noticed....and i use to drink it right after alot of activity in the summer..I love it..i wish i could still drink a gallon a day but im still on a pretty good diet...abut 2 days outta the week ill still drink a little over a half a gallon.....
nice
thats an expensive habit bro >_< Milk costs more than gas!
Milk ...
..has always had people confused including myself . I tell you if we go by nature is milk wasn't messed around with I will agree its the best thing ever when growing up . I personally don't drink milk when because it messes my stomach Im lactose intolerant . The other thing is all these milk companies are messing up with milk and adding things to it just for financial satisfaction . You have 2 % , fat free, half and half ..this and that WTF ..MILK IS FU$*ING Milk JUST KEEP IT NATURAL AND ORGANIC !!!
ONE MORE THING I LOVE THE DEBATE KEEP IT GOING WITHOUT DISRESPECTING EACH OTHER .
most definitely
we can agree to disagree -
I do agree that Trudeau is a huckster and his intentions are obviously to make money from controversy, but that doesn't mean that everything in his book is wrong or not supported by science. I think if anything his book brought attention to the fact that some things are wrong with the way we promote health in this country.
Mercola on the other hand, makes alot of sense to me - of course he is persecuted by other traditional thinkers for taking up opposing views. I like the guy - in the same way I like Dr. Shulz (www.herbdoc.com) - the guy is very radical, but it's very hard for me to argue with his logic. In the 70's Shulz had his clinic raided and the government destroyed his practice because he was giving people herbs (herbs that ever harmed anyone). Ironically, the pharmaceutical industry kills over 100,000 people a year by lethal drug reactions , but that doesn't seem to be a problem because the pharmaceutical companies supply the money that dictates which research grants scientists receive. Pharmaceutical drugs kill 8-10 times more people each year than street drugs - yet no one is in the street protesting this - why? Cause it's backed up with scientific medical data? just like Vioxx was --
Only now people are starting to get frustrated with the "scientific data" because they are not getting well. As a result, they are starting to go outside the conventional way of thinking and many are imploring more alternative solutions. As a result, the money trail has shifted in the last decades and the medical community was forced to start researching and promoting things like vitamins and herbs, things that were once taboo, in order to get a piece of the pie.
Just like we saw in the chiropractic field, they were labeled as quacks, only now accepted and covered by the medical community once they realized people were going to see them regardless if they were covered by insurance or not. Don't you find it odd how all of the sudden the "scientific data" regarding the chiropractic field changed from quackery to being helpful?
It is my guess that in the near future more and more "alternative practices" once labeled by the government and it's "statistical data" as quacks will eminently be labeled as helpful resources and will furthermore be covered by medical insurance.
Look we both know data can and has been influenced by money - not say all data is or isn't - it's just a part of reality. if I had the money to create a sided study to show something could harmful or helpful - I could.
There are of course many ways I could defend my beliefs, but it's not necessary. It seems to me that the the conventional ways of healthcare promotion simply are not working -- This country is FAT and SICK and we need to start looking at different ways to fix this problem. The conventional ways clearly do not work well, regardless of how much statistical data is promoting them. As far as I am concerned, one of the best ways we can start is by eliminating or reducing the amount of heat processed, chemically enhanced, hormone laden MILK in our diets.
Gotta run again - I'm sure we'll pick it up later -
Hello...
We've gotten off on a few tangents here...
Mercola runs into problems when he says a product does something...yet can't prove it. Unfortunately, this is the case with most of what he says, and that is a real problem. Hence the Federal Trade Commission coming after him. As the adage goes, I'm all about having an open mind, but not so open my brain falls out :)
I understand your frustration with the medical community, and I am certainly no champion for the pharmaceutical industry. You do need to remember, though, that herbs and drugs are essentially the same thing. These are bioactive plants...some which have been studied for their medicinal uses (drugs) and some that have yet to be studied (herbs and other plants). Doesn't it make sense to test the active components of plants (drugs) as well as herbs to see if they do in fact work the way we theorize?? Of course...
If we can't prove they work, then what's the point. That said, is the system perfect...no.
The only way I want quackery and alternative practices used in the medical establishment is if we can prove safety and effectiveness. If so, GREAT!! I can't imagine how anyone can argue with this statement. This is the same thing I'm advocating to the folks here regarding sports supplements. If a company can't or won't prove their product is safe and effective, then I don't want my clients using it, period!! This is ethics at its finest...
I completely disagree with the contention that our healthcare promotion practices don't work. People are fat and sick because they haven't had ACCESS to the right therapies or they can't AFFORD them or aren't MOTIVATED to use them. By conventional ways...do you mean diet and exercise?? I think these work very well and thousands of my clients can attest to it...not to mention many Myfittribe members. Diet and exercise work...if they didn't, why are we even here on this web forum??
As an example, we have research showing that 90% of people who start an exercise program don't stick to it after 1-2 months. Does this mean the METHOD isn't working...of course not. You only get out what you put in, my friend!!
Lovin' the chat!! LOL
B
Brian Zehetner MS,RD,CSSD,CSCS
JamCore and Myfittribe "Nutrition Guy"
awesome...
why hasnt anyone else replied to these two! :) lol...
People want quick fixes and quick solutions. Aka "Drugs & Medicine". Thats a pretty safe thing to say, when regarding the majority.
Again, we're not majority here at MFt.com, or at least I speak for myself when i say that.
If we have back pain, we take medicine to "heal it". WTF? Uh. No. Why do americans continue to do this... that doesnt fix it. You're jjust masking the problem.
What's this got to do with milk? Well. Nothing in a direct microsociological sense, but think again.
Why do people drink milk and think its healthy? Regardless of statistics and studies (unfortunately Brian :D ), sadly most people are reading Doctorate & Medical literature, they're sitting on their fat butts watching the boob tube. Ta-da. Mass media influence. I bet you 8 times out of 10, (even 9 or 10) haha... that most people drink milk because at some point down the line, they saw Television promoting it. Either they saw it, or they were told by their friends who saw an ad on the TV.
On the same note, why do people take pain killers and medicines. Because Drug companies pour in billions of dollars on their ads, and thye have money to put up ads. Viagra, Tylenol PM, Musonex, etc. etc. Im not sure where im going with this.. lol.
I tend to agree with Rick here in one sense. Stick with whole foods. We are the only mammels that drink milk past babies.. HOWEVER Rick... take a step back and think about this... is it really that we are the only animals that DO drink milk into adulthood.... or is it more that we are athe only animals that have the CAPABILITY to drink milk into adulthood. Did you think of that. yeah that sounds obvious right? But not necessarily. Sometimes we forget these things. after all, the last thing a fish notices is water...
PS: IF anyone understands what im trying to say.... please let me know... im lost (lmfao!!! )
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MILK = DEATH
Aha - just kidding ....
Hey guys, I’m glad my article is causing so much healthy debate. I realize my views on healthcare are often quite different from the conventional way of thinking, but I think challenging the traditional ways of thinking help us personally define why we choose to believe what we believe. Brian has made several good points and I appreciate his perspective, and in his defense, I don’t know of many mainstream nutritionists who would not include milk as part of a healthy diet. Would I recommend it? No. And if I had a client who didn’t want to give it up I would suggest they drink only raw milk if possible. If they couldn’t or wouldn’t do that then I would suggest they drink organic milk.
With that in mind I will address a few comments of my own … unfortunately I only have time to address a couple cuz I gotta run out the doh. But I will continue later on when I have more time.
1) Milk is for Babies
I don’t think this is such a huge stretch. We are the only species that DOES drink milk past it’s infant stage and I think that is a profound thought. To say this is an opinion is really only trading one opinion for another – but that is in my opinion of course ☺
Isn’t the statement, “milk is necessary for adults to be healthy” just an opinion as well? If this statement were true (like the milk-industry commercials suggest) myself and thousands of other non-mil drinking adults should be in dire straits. But that isn’t the case. In fact, my health is thriving without the additional aid of milk and my calcium levels are also soaring by eating a balanced diet.
Additionally, there is another interesting idea to consider when looking at this “baby - milk” scenario – many people are born with the enzyme to break down milk as infants and as they get older this gene becomes non-functional making them lactose intolerant. Many people theorize that this is NOT a genetic defect, but simply a natural process signifying that milk is no longer necessary as we enter adulthood.
BTW – if your looking for reputable information that says milk is not appropriate for adult humans you don’t have to search that hard at all. That is if you consider information from a MEDICAL DOCTOR to be “reputable”. Whether you do or don’t, this medical doctor has nothing good to say about pasteurized or homogenized milk at all.
http://www.mercola.com/1999/archive/dont_get_milk.htm
2) Calcium to Magnesium Ratios
Yes, you are absolutely right, individual foods do not need to have a 2:1 ratio to be effective because it is dependant on your overall daily intake. Maybe I didn’t make it clear enough in the article, but the point I was trying to make was as follows:
For people who do not eat a balanced diet – and depend on Milk for the majority of their calcium requirements (such as the media recommends) then they run a serious risk of creating excess circulating calcium in their system because their magnesium intake may be too low to utilize their calcium levels effectively -- this kind of stuff happens all the time to people because they are ill informed and think Milk is the cure all for all there calcium needs. My point is that milk is NOT as good of a source of calcium as most people are led to believe due to this fact – and that is something people need to know and consider.
OK - gotta run - but I do appreciate all the comments whether you agree with me or not - like I said it's health debate that helps us define what we believe -
Rick
i love talking nutrition...
"For people who do not eat a balanced diet – and depend on Milk for the majority of their calcium requirements (such as the media recommends) then they run a serious risk of creating excess circulating calcium in their system because their magnesium intake may be too low to utilize their calcium levels effectively -- this kind of stuff happens all the time to people because they are ill informed and think Milk is the cure all for all there calcium needs. My point is that milk is NOT as good of a source of calcium as most people are led to believe due to this fact – and that is something people need to know and consider."
-Rick
To brian, i agree with rick here, and im sure you agree ( i still have yet to read your reply, or the new comments posted above :)) but rick is right that even though we know brian is right, its the fact that the majority of people dont eat right, period. That's why we need people like Brian.... to help people learn to eat right.. and inform us. .
Just liek for example, i know how to make chinese food healthy if i go out to eat. and when im talking to my bodybuilding friends or fitness friends, i'll say something like "ok. lets get some chinese food tonight, its really healthy!!" and some tpyical american overheard me, they would be like ok sweet. chinese is healthy, these fit people over here just said it. but in reality, my friends and i all know that what we're going to order is the steamed veggies without any sauces or anything on them, and chicken without any sauces on it. now granted, we know that chicken is practically processed retarded chicken, lol, but im talking about macronutrient wise, its super healthy. if you can see my point here.. when discussing nutritoin, we have to be careful becasue its implied that we're talkin about majority and ... you see what i mean. mass media unfortunately influences everyone. then again, for most of us here at MFT.com, that's NOT true b/c we're not the majority.
i personally dont watch the news or TV period,. I watch occasional dvd's and movies with my family but thats about it. in fact i hate the mass media news on tv. i get stuck hearing it at work b/c we have a tv on in the gym for our patients, and its up loud enough so the patients in the rooms can hear too, lol.
moving on... (on to brians replies... *rubs hands together* this is so interesting to see eahc others views)
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Hey Rick...
1. I don't know any nutritionists or dietitians that would not include milk in a healthy diet either :)
2. Soy milk is a good option too...
3. Milk is for babies is your opinion...true. My opinion is that milk is for adults as well, and there is no scientific evidence that indicates it is unhealthy or inappropriate for adults. There is no correlation between mothers producing milk for babies and then milk suddenly causing a host of health problems for adults. Some are intolerant yes...and it has to do with the enzyme lactase...yes. But as with all foods, when someone doesn't tolerate something, they probably shouldn't consume it. That doesn't mean that those who do tolerate it are causing bodily harm in the process. There is simply no correlation. In fact, researchers and scientists alike support my contention. Blanketly stating that milk is dangerous and inappropriate for all adults is inaccurate, especially in the absence of any research stating as such.
4. I have never seen a commercial stating that "milk is necessary for adults to be healthy," and if there is one, it is absurd. Milk is not at all necessary for health, so we agree here!! Do you have proof of such a commercial? Are you overstating here or did you see those words in a milk ad??? I'm definitely curious about this!!!
5. Unfortunately, we can't base the nutritional recommendations of millions of Americans (and the world as a whole) on theories!! To make heath recommendations, theories must be proved through the scientific process. In other words, drug companies are not allowed to put out medicines based on the theory that they work...they must be PROVEN to work. The dietary supplement industry IS allowed to put out supplements based on theory, and look where that's gotten us. Again, there is no peer-reviewed scientific studies showing milk is harmful to adults...and the peer-reviewed process is the gold standard for proof.
6. I mentioned Dr. Mercola earlier, but Kevin Trudeau was the focus at the time. Dr. Mercola has also received numerous letters from the FTC warning him about making wild, exaggerated claims abouts his products and other theories he promotes. He is a D.O. medical physician, but credibility is not high on his list of attributes...clearly. These two guys promote nutritional quackery...a claim not made as an opinion of mine, but as a result of their outrageous claims and theories with zero support from the scientific community. Again, science and research are the gold standards for basing recs. I have credibility as a registered dietitian with two degrees in nutrition and 12 years of experience in the field, but it is unethical to use my credibility to promote an opinion of mine with no supporting evidence.
7. Excess calcium levels in the blood are not common and are generally due to imbalances between parathyroid hormone and calcitonin, as well as other hormonal variations. It has very little to do with ratios of calcium and magnesium. The body's calcium levels are stringently controlled, and again, absorption of calcium is only around 30-40%.
As always, I appreciate the dialogue my friend. That said, I don't want folks to be make a decision about milk based on fear, especially when there is no scientific evidence to support that fear. My main goal here is to provide facts based on science...then people can decide what they want to do with their own lives. I don't care if people drink milk or not, but we can't lose sight of the facts.
We can always agree to disagree, right?? LOL
B
Brian Zehetner MS,RD,CSSD,CSCS
JamCore and Myfittribe "Nutrition Guy"
Lots of great info and
Lots of great info and discussion on this article. Thanks to all the smart people on this subject.
Excellent Article
Dairy farmers have known of the 'healing' power of raw milk for years. My husband, who grew up on a small farm and worked dairy farms for years before moving on, would tell me about how raw milk would cure infections not just in the farm animals, but in children as well.
I bet all of the 'anti-raw' milk advocates would choke on their words if they knew what their 'good milk' contained. I don't drink milk often. I don't like the way it affects me.
Where do I start?? LOL
A few comments...
1. "Milk is for babies" is simply an opinion...not a fact. If you're looking to find reputable information saying milk is not appropriate for adults humans, you'll be searching for a long time.
2. Magnesium is important for bone health, much like vitamin D, vitamin K and phosphorus, not to mention calcium. That said, individual foods do NOT need to have a 2:1 ratio of calcium to magnesium. When we look at ratios of one nutrient to another, we must take into account daily averages. The basis of this relates to the RDA's...1000mgs of calcium to 420 mgs magnesium DAILY (approx. a 2:1 ratio). It is inaccurate to say milk is not healthy b/c it has a 9 or 10:1 ratio of calcium to magnesium. FYI--approx. 30-40% of calcium is absorbed from the GI tract.
3. Green, leafy veggies, nuts and the like are calcium sources, but they do NOT provide anywhere near the amount of calcium that milk or other dairy products do. To get the amount of calcium in 1 cup of milk, you'd need to eat over 6 cups of broccoli or 4 oz. of almonds (100 or so, which is 640 calories). Some of the foods mentioned may have a better Ca:Mg ratio, but as pointed out, this is irrelevant when looking at individual foods. 1 cup of spinach has slightly less calcium than a cup of milk, but oxalates from the spinach bind it up, allowing much less to be absorbed. Also, don't forget, the lactose in milk increases calcium absorption...
4. Kevin Trudeau is not a scientific authority and has paid millions in fines to the FTC as a result of false claims made about his products and other endeavors. At last check, he still had lawsuits pending. Most scientists and health professionals think he promotes quackery, similar to the well-known Dr. Mercola...
5. The processing of milk does make it more shelf stable, but most foods products use preservatives in a similar manner. For example, saturated fats appear in lots of foods, but they aren't used to simply make us sick, as some would have you believe. Does that make it right...no. Saturated fats are used because they are more shelf-stable and are solid at room temperature. In addition, with respect to things like nutrition bars, saturated fats make the bars easier to cut because of their solid nature. Now if you want to eat more "natural" products as a result of these preservation methods, that's obviously fine with me.
6. Regarding the Masai tribe, the implication is that raw dairy products have decreased their risk of heart disease, but there is no cause and effect relationship here. In fact, much of their lack of disease has been attributed to unbelievable fitness levels and cholesterol-lowering constituents in their food supply.
7. Animals are tested for antibiotic residues and other medications and their milk cannot be used until their levels are undetectable. Does it still happen...maybe, but it is illegal.
8. The bloody, pus-laden comment seems a bit over-the-top to me, but I digress.
9. The idea that we should try to consume clean milk (and foods in general) is, of course, a great one. If you have the means to get organic milk, please do.
Bottom line: Milk causes some people problems, whether it's from protein allergies, lactose intolerance or some other concern. In this respect, it is very similar to any number of other foods that humans consume. However, I will side with the WHO, the USDA, the ADA and many other independent governing bodies that have found milk to be a great addition to a healthy diet. Are some influenced by the lobbyists...sure, but I can make an educated decision for myself based on the data. There is also plenty of research on Pubmed, done by independent researchers (and published in peer-reviewed scientific journals) that tout the benefits of dairy consumption as a whole. Check it out when you get a chance...
By the way, I don't disagree about how some animals are treated...especially if you saw the video from a few weeks back. Very disturbing...there are laws against this type of situation though, but as always, people will break the law. Thank goodness for the Humane Society :)
FYI--I am not part of the National Dairy Council...and as such, you can choose to avoid milk. I have no problem with that. I do want people to make their decision with factual information though.
B
Brian Zehetner MS,RD,CSSD,CSCS
JamCore and Myfittribe "Nutrition Guy"
haha. I love Brian.
I've always loved milk products (not so much milk lately) because of their high protein content and low fat. yes they have sugar, but its not thaaaaaaaaaat high. One cup is 3/4 tbsp of sugar. One cup of cereal that you feed your kids is also at least that much sugar, with minimal protein and no micronutrients. In fact most of what americans eat is either high in sugar or high in bad fat, so I dont think anyone can complain or argue that, especially since we're not advocating drinking 1 gallon of milk per day.
That said. Brian is always the "man with the sources".
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Milk
The article is very interesting. To complete the analysis, it might be very helpful to also talk about milk products like cottage cheese, cheese, yoghurt, etc. I would like both Rick and Brian to address this.
mooooooo v v v v eeeee over.....
I love milk....can't live without it. Don't like whole milk though.....but with my meals especially, MILK does my body good!
:-) Teri
Whoa....
Wow...lots of milk bashing going on here!! Hmm....
Maybe I'll present the other side since I am a milk fan...but it'll have to wait until my girls go to bed :)
Brian Zehetner MS,RD,CSSD,CSCS
Your Resident "Nutrition Guy"
please address...
the effect that this bad processsing of milk has on our Whey Protein.... Its been a while since i've read about whey, but i forget which main dairy source whey protein is sourced from.... is it primarly cotage cheese, or just plain milk.. or .. hrm.
this really seems like if what rick says is true, it has nothing to do with nutrition, but rather commercialization... what i mean by that is, in its purity, dairy products... nevermind i can't continue this because without ANY processing, we wouldnt even have dairy prodcuts :D ( i was going to say that dairy products in their pure natural state are very healthy... but we get dairy products from some types of processing no?... then again i guess not, since all you need to do to make butter is whip it good... dun dun dun nuh, just whip it... is there a healthy way to make cheese without having to like "process" it per say and add chemicals this and chemicals that...)
just stick with whole foods and you'll be safe. lol!
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I am
with you! :-)
I am
with you! :-)
Not meant for humans
Cow/goat/whatever milk is great for the intended offspring of said animals, just like (human) breast milk is designed for human babies. I quit drinking commercial milk when I started getting the effects of lactose-intolerance when I was about 12 or 13. I eat plenty of cheese and organic yogurt, so I hope that doesn't make me a hypocrite, but there's no need for us to consume such a fatty liquid that has no real health benefits (in my opinion).
Homo milk
I have to go re-think my homoginized milk intake now... oh well!
Thanks for the info.
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hello!
wake up call.
I'm not trying to say I know everything or pretend to, but I'm glad when someone teaches me something I don't know about nutrition. Thanks rick!
I personally do not drink much milk, so I am happy. I use it SOMETIMES when I eat my "Cheerios on Steroids" meals, but not really as I almost always use water with cereal... lol. yeah its true.
So taking a step back... does this affect our WHEY PROTEIN.... hrm...?
Something to think about peeps...
Looks like my theory of eating whole foods keeps proving itself more right everyday... now if we could just solve that pesticide hormone issue with growing crops as well... :D because I cannot afford organic foods all the time.... or do I need to switch regardless?
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